Parrot Mouthed

tmsStauffer · 08-22-2003 12:34 PM

Upon messing with Riot's mouth a few weeks ago, I noticed he is parrot mouthed. Neither Peaches or Libby were parrot mouthed...and up until then..I didn't realize Riot was either. Earlier this spring when I was messing around with his mouth his teeth all seemed to be in alignment properly with each other. Is it something that progresses or what? What are some things I'll have to be on the lookout for as he gets older? Thanks

artemis · 08-22-2003 12:38 PM

I have never heard of a horse developing parrot mouth. I my experience they have all been born that way. Are you sure he is not just teething?
I have seen a teething horse whose mouth was very swollen.

Susan · 08-22-2003 12:47 PM

Parrot mouth IS hereditary.

It can interfere with eating because the teeth don't align properly.

tmsStauffer · 08-22-2003 03:26 PM

what bothers me is he didn't USED to be like this...this spring he wasn't..i come back from camp and notice it.

Gallamist · 08-22-2003 05:05 PM

The filly at my old barn was born with parrot mouth and she adventually grew out of it. Maybe he will too.

sheena · 08-22-2003 05:31 PM

Take a pic, Stauffer.

How bad is it? REALLY bad? This bad?

Parrot Mouth Picture

It is a hereditary trait, so if he is a true Parrot Mouth, then either his dam or sire was too.

NancyM · 08-22-2003 07:09 PM

The horses I have had who were parrot mouthed were born that way, it did not develop with time. Could you have missed it when you looked earlier? The first one was quite severe, overshot by at least 3 inches as an adult. He was a very easy keeper, and ate grass just like a normal horse, no problems. He grew to 17.2 and about 1600 lbs, and was a successful A circut hunter for many years. I have a foal right now with a parrot mouth too, she probably isn't as bad as the first one I had. They will need extra dentisty work done throughout their lives. It depends on where the jaw is elongated, how much problem they will have with it. If the molars match up well and the problem is only with the incisors, there is less problem. If the molars do not match up and are offset as well as the incisors, the mouth will need more work. I bred both the parrot mouths that I have owned, both from parents with normal mouths. It is just a genetic anomoly that pops up every now and again. None of the other foals that the mares or stallions ever produced had this problem in either case. I would not select a horse to breed who had this problem, but if you get it as a result of two normal horses, well, it can be dealt with. There are worse problems that a horse can have. Just keep an eye on it, and at some point find out if the molars are involved, or just the incisors. Since your colts' future is as a gelding, it doesn't matter in your case.

Salina · 08-23-2003 12:37 PM

Just looked at that picture . . . > looks really awful . . . . . .

h34r:

tmsStauffer · 08-23-2003 07:34 PM

it's not as bad as that Sheena..but noticable...Amy seen it too..at first when he was standing there, it didn't look bad..then we looked again and it looked worse..moving his mouth around and it was hard to get a good look. He isn't having any problems right now eating...when the vet comes out to geld him, I'll have him take a look too.

Kblue · 08-24-2003 04:58 PM

I don't know if its something that they grow into or grow out of, but my horse is slightly parrot-mouthed. It doesn't affect him much at all, just we have to have his teeth done a little more frequently than usual.

Thinks-okay that was kinda pointless... oh well. Just some encouraging words

08-22-2003 12:34 PM	#1
tmsStauffer Resident Hick Join Date: Jul 16 2003 Location: Southern Ohio-Bainbridge Posts: 12,105	Upon messing with Riot's mouth a few weeks ago, I noticed he is parrot mouthed. Neither Peaches or Libby were parrot mouthed...and up until then..I didn't realize Riot was either. Earlier this spring when I was messing around with his mouth his teeth all seemed to be in alignment properly with each other. Is it something that progresses or what? What are some things I'll have to be on the lookout for as he gets older? Thanks __________________ Liberty(1995-2003) and Patriot(2003-2008) Currently Working On Artwork For A Brand New Equine SIM Game!

08-22-2003 12:47 PM	#3
Susan watch him Join Date: Jul 16 2003 Location: BC Posts: 1,808	Parrot mouth IS hereditary. It can interfere with eating because the teeth don't align properly. __________________ www.RadicalFrenchGold.com proud owner of money earning, winning Perlino QH stallion.

08-22-2003 03:26 PM	#4
tmsStauffer Resident Hick Join Date: Jul 16 2003 Location: Southern Ohio-Bainbridge Posts: 12,105	what bothers me is he didn't USED to be like this...this spring he wasn't..i come back from camp and notice it. __________________ Liberty(1995-2003) and Patriot(2003-2008) Currently Working On Artwork For A Brand New Equine SIM Game!

08-22-2003 05:05 PM	#5
Gallamist Resident Nag Join Date: Jul 16 2003 Location: Sherwood Park. Posts: 8,151	The filly at my old barn was born with parrot mouth and she adventually grew out of it. Maybe he will too. __________________ R.I.P. Ericka, Dusty Dawn &and; Lady..04/26/03~

08-22-2003 05:31 PM	#6
sheena Ultimate Member Join Date: Jul 16 2003 Location: Fraser Valley, B.C. Posts: 1,393	Take a pic, Stauffer. How bad is it? REALLY bad? This bad? Parrot Mouth Picture It is a hereditary trait, so if he is a true Parrot Mouth, then either his dam or sire was too. __________________

08-22-2003 12:38 PM	#2
artemis Senior Member Join Date: Jul 17 2003 Location: Northumberland, England Posts: 112	I have never heard of a horse developing parrot mouth. I my experience they have all been born that way. Are you sure he is not just teething? I have seen a teething horse whose mouth was very swollen.

08-22-2003 07:09 PM	#7
NancyM Ultimate Member Join Date: Jul 17 2003 Location: Clinton, BC Posts: 4,239	The horses I have had who were parrot mouthed were born that way, it did not develop with time. Could you have missed it when you looked earlier? The first one was quite severe, overshot by at least 3 inches as an adult. He was a very easy keeper, and ate grass just like a normal horse, no problems. He grew to 17.2 and about 1600 lbs, and was a successful A circut hunter for many years. I have a foal right now with a parrot mouth too, she probably isn't as bad as the first one I had. They will need extra dentisty work done throughout their lives. It depends on where the jaw is elongated, how much problem they will have with it. If the molars match up well and the problem is only with the incisors, there is less problem. If the molars do not match up and are offset as well as the incisors, the mouth will need more work. I bred both the parrot mouths that I have owned, both from parents with normal mouths. It is just a genetic anomoly that pops up every now and again. None of the other foals that the mares or stallions ever produced had this problem in either case. I would not select a horse to breed who had this problem, but if you get it as a result of two normal horses, well, it can be dealt with. There are worse problems that a horse can have. Just keep an eye on it, and at some point find out if the molars are involved, or just the incisors. Since your colts' future is as a gelding, it doesn't matter in your case. __________________ Visit us at http://www.cordovafarm.visit.ws/

08-23-2003 12:37 PM	#8
Salina Ultimate Member Join Date: Jul 28 2003 Location: Co, Kerry, Ireland Posts: 3,672	Just looked at that picture . . . > looks really awful . . . . . . h34r: h34r:

08-23-2003 07:34 PM	#9
tmsStauffer Resident Hick Join Date: Jul 16 2003 Location: Southern Ohio-Bainbridge Posts: 12,105	it's not as bad as that Sheena..but noticable...Amy seen it too..at first when he was standing there, it didn't look bad..then we looked again and it looked worse..moving his mouth around and it was hard to get a good look. He isn't having any problems right now eating...when the vet comes out to geld him, I'll have him take a look too. __________________ Liberty(1995-2003) and Patriot(2003-2008) Currently Working On Artwork For A Brand New Equine SIM Game!

08-24-2003 04:58 PM	#10
Kblue Ultimate Member Join Date: Jul 17 2003 Posts: 1,819	I don't know if its something that they grow into or grow out of, but my horse is slightly parrot-mouthed. It doesn't affect him much at all, just we have to have his teeth done a little more frequently than usual. Thinks-okay that was kinda pointless... oh well. Just some encouraging words __________________ I just keep thinking the long run is now...

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